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	<title>Comments on: Algorithms IRL: Gradient Descent and Start-up Ideas (2/3)</title>
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		<title>By: louis</title>
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		<dc:creator>louis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 22:14:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Brian (and Joe),

I hope you don&#039;t feel I unfairly quote-mined you or put words in your mouth (or anyone else&#039;s). I don&#039;t disagree with anything you&#039;ve written (including the post I quoted). I hoped to make that clear in the following sections that by actually &quot;listening&quot; to what you guys said, it was clear you were making an altogether different point. 

I think the problem comes when &quot;we&quot; read posts like yours, paul&#039;s, and dharmesh&#039;s and distill it into a general belief that ideas are largely irrelevant. 

In a way, we are agreeing, through analogy. I&#039;ve said that the business landscape is complicated in such a way that figuring out which way &quot;downhill&quot; is is extremely difficult. That is precisely what you are saying. In fact, you&#039;ve gone a step farther and said that the starting condition isn&#039;t nearly as relevant as your ability to find and head downhill (because it is so much easier to find a good starting spot than it is to figure out which way to go). I&#039;d agree with that statement, as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Brian (and Joe),</p>
<p>I hope you don&#8217;t feel I unfairly quote-mined you or put words in your mouth (or anyone else&#8217;s). I don&#8217;t disagree with anything you&#8217;ve written (including the post I quoted). I hoped to make that clear in the following sections that by actually &#8220;listening&#8221; to what you guys said, it was clear you were making an altogether different point. </p>
<p>I think the problem comes when &#8220;we&#8221; read posts like yours, paul&#8217;s, and dharmesh&#8217;s and distill it into a general belief that ideas are largely irrelevant. </p>
<p>In a way, we are agreeing, through analogy. I&#8217;ve said that the business landscape is complicated in such a way that figuring out which way &#8220;downhill&#8221; is is extremely difficult. That is precisely what you are saying. In fact, you&#8217;ve gone a step farther and said that the starting condition isn&#8217;t nearly as relevant as your ability to find and head downhill (because it is so much easier to find a good starting spot than it is to figure out which way to go). I&#8217;d agree with that statement, as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Ganley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Ganley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 17:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To some extent I&#039;m repeating Brian Oberkirch&#039;s comment, but the way I&#039;ve always interpreted this little chestnut is this: I have probably an idea per month that, if perfectly executed, would be &#039;million-dollar&#039; ideas. I suspect most smart people do. It&#039;s the execution that is the hard part. I&#039;ve always taken the chestnut as a retort to those people who come up with a good idea and then guard it as if it&#039;s the first original idea in the history of the world, who believe that having the idea is the hard part and then all too often proceed to totally botch the execution because their eye is on the wrong ball.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To some extent I&#8217;m repeating Brian Oberkirch&#8217;s comment, but the way I&#8217;ve always interpreted this little chestnut is this: I have probably an idea per month that, if perfectly executed, would be &#8216;million-dollar&#8217; ideas. I suspect most smart people do. It&#8217;s the execution that is the hard part. I&#8217;ve always taken the chestnut as a retort to those people who come up with a good idea and then guard it as if it&#8217;s the first original idea in the history of the world, who believe that having the idea is the hard part and then all too often proceed to totally botch the execution because their eye is on the wrong ball.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 16:28:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been on PayPal since the Palm days, and may have actually used that version to split a restaurant tab with a friend (not sure anymore). I was very amused last year when they rolled out PayPal mobile.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been on PayPal since the Palm days, and may have actually used that version to split a restaurant tab with a friend (not sure anymore). I was very amused last year when they rolled out PayPal mobile.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Oberkirch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Oberkirch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 15:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course, you need to set some context around the quote of mine you pulled.  I&#039;m writing about people&#039;s fetish for NDA&#039;s and secrecy around some &#039;million-dollar&#039; idea they have.  The point of the post was that ideas are cheap, and we all have them willy nilly.  Ideas are never the problem.  Prioritizing, prototyping and responding to *real* conditions are where things start to get valuable.  What is the actual experience of the thing in context?  An idea in a pitch deck, meh.  Really, who cares?    Can you make the call to abandon a game your team has been working on for a year plus to start to develop out a new idea for photo sharing?  Can you make the call to throw more resources to an SMS based status update service that pivots off of one small feature that a defunct mobile service once offered?  Etc.  Of course, great ideas are a necessary, but insufficient condition.  Also, the best way to have a good idea, is to have lots of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, you need to set some context around the quote of mine you pulled.  I&#8217;m writing about people&#8217;s fetish for NDA&#8217;s and secrecy around some &#8216;million-dollar&#8217; idea they have.  The point of the post was that ideas are cheap, and we all have them willy nilly.  Ideas are never the problem.  Prioritizing, prototyping and responding to *real* conditions are where things start to get valuable.  What is the actual experience of the thing in context?  An idea in a pitch deck, meh.  Really, who cares?    Can you make the call to abandon a game your team has been working on for a year plus to start to develop out a new idea for photo sharing?  Can you make the call to throw more resources to an SMS based status update service that pivots off of one small feature that a defunct mobile service once offered?  Etc.  Of course, great ideas are a necessary, but insufficient condition.  Also, the best way to have a good idea, is to have lots of them.</p>
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