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	<title>Comments on: How I grew to hate every computer language</title>
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		<title>By: Alpheus</title>
		<link>http://lbrandy.com/blog/2009/08/how-i-grew-to-hate-every-computer-language/comment-page-2/#comment-28963</link>
		<dc:creator>Alpheus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2012 22:14:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been using Python for some time now, but when I ran into a bug that I can&#039;t find in a personal project, I decided to learn a new language.  As a result, I already &quot;hate&quot; two fascinating languages:  Haskell and Common Lisp.  Haskell because of the static typing, and Common Lisp, because of the lack of libraries.

I still want to learn both languages, though:  I have a feeling I&#039;ll learn some powerful voodoo from both!  (And, as a mathematician, I find that they have a certain attractiveness than most other languages simply don&#039;t have...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been using Python for some time now, but when I ran into a bug that I can&#8217;t find in a personal project, I decided to learn a new language.  As a result, I already &#8220;hate&#8221; two fascinating languages:  Haskell and Common Lisp.  Haskell because of the static typing, and Common Lisp, because of the lack of libraries.</p>
<p>I still want to learn both languages, though:  I have a feeling I&#8217;ll learn some powerful voodoo from both!  (And, as a mathematician, I find that they have a certain attractiveness than most other languages simply don&#8217;t have&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: bro</title>
		<link>http://lbrandy.com/blog/2009/08/how-i-grew-to-hate-every-computer-language/comment-page-2/#comment-25570</link>
		<dc:creator>bro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 16:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cool story, bro.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool story, bro.</p>
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		<title>By: fxyblake</title>
		<link>http://lbrandy.com/blog/2009/08/how-i-grew-to-hate-every-computer-language/comment-page-1/#comment-25127</link>
		<dc:creator>fxyblake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 00:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what is computer language?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what is computer language?</p>
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		<title>By: fxyblake</title>
		<link>http://lbrandy.com/blog/2009/08/how-i-grew-to-hate-every-computer-language/comment-page-1/#comment-25126</link>
		<dc:creator>fxyblake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 00:12:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you need to cool down man</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you need to cool down man</p>
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		<title>By: Alpheus</title>
		<link>http://lbrandy.com/blog/2009/08/how-i-grew-to-hate-every-computer-language/comment-page-1/#comment-23768</link>
		<dc:creator>Alpheus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 22:50:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Try a well-integrated blend of JavaScript, PHP, and HTML--There&#039;s no telling what languages you&#039;ll love after that!  If you don&#039;t commit suicide first.... ;-)

(I&#039;m currently doing this for work; this is one of the things that has driven my to try Haskell and Lisp.  If only I had the time to learn these things more deeply!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Try a well-integrated blend of JavaScript, PHP, and HTML&#8211;There&#8217;s no telling what languages you&#8217;ll love after that!  If you don&#8217;t commit suicide first&#8230;. <img src='http://lbrandy.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>(I&#8217;m currently doing this for work; this is one of the things that has driven my to try Haskell and Lisp.  If only I had the time to learn these things more deeply!)</p>
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		<title>By: ABC</title>
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		<dc:creator>ABC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 14:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>try Smalltalk (for instance with the MIT free pharo-project.org) 
and you will be surprised. 

These books should help you getting started:
http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr/FreeBooks.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>try Smalltalk (for instance with the MIT free pharo-project.org)<br />
and you will be surprised. </p>
<p>These books should help you getting started:<br />
<a href="http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr/FreeBooks.html" rel="nofollow">http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr/FreeBooks.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 05:14:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oddly, I think hating the languages has almost nothing to do with how much you love programming.  For me, it&#039;s always been about how to express myself unambiguously to the computer with minimal effort.  I was once fluent in C++, and could easily chat with the computer to get what I wanted done; it was a joy.  With some disuse though, I found that programming wasn&#039;t nearly as fun.  It was like taking a year of French and then going to France: sure I could fumble around, but nowhere near the elegance to feel good about it.

The only time I care about the language now is when I get some joy from creating something elegant by exploiting a language&#039;s characteristic.  Otherwise, the language is just another way to talk to the computer; convenience dictates this more often for me than elegance, sadly.  But I&#039;m not a programmer by trade, so perhaps my perspective is a bit out of the loop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oddly, I think hating the languages has almost nothing to do with how much you love programming.  For me, it&#8217;s always been about how to express myself unambiguously to the computer with minimal effort.  I was once fluent in C++, and could easily chat with the computer to get what I wanted done; it was a joy.  With some disuse though, I found that programming wasn&#8217;t nearly as fun.  It was like taking a year of French and then going to France: sure I could fumble around, but nowhere near the elegance to feel good about it.</p>
<p>The only time I care about the language now is when I get some joy from creating something elegant by exploiting a language&#8217;s characteristic.  Otherwise, the language is just another way to talk to the computer; convenience dictates this more often for me than elegance, sadly.  But I&#8217;m not a programmer by trade, so perhaps my perspective is a bit out of the loop.</p>
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